Comments on: Why We Vaccinate Redux http://balafon.net/archives/1048 Shouting Into the Void Wed, 04 Aug 2010 01:22:44 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Gordon http://balafon.net/archives/1048#comment-12193 Gordon Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:13:57 +0000 http://balafon.net/?p=1048#comment-12193 The ant-vaccination movement reminds me of nothing so much as those medieval clerics who insisted that bathing was unhealthy and sinful. People have drowned in their bathtubs, after all. Think of the children! The ant-vaccination movement reminds me of nothing so much as those medieval clerics who insisted that bathing was unhealthy and sinful. People have drowned in their bathtubs, after all. Think of the children!

]]> By: Gordon http://balafon.net/archives/1048#comment-12192 Gordon Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:07:34 +0000 http://balafon.net/?p=1048#comment-12192 Unfortunately the authors of the paper you cite have been censured for improper data collection: http://www.casewatch.org/civil/geier.shtml This is the pattern with opponents of vaccination: they lie, lie, and lie again. Their conclusion also goes against logic: vaccines work preciesly by <i>exercising</i> the immune system. And you're completely missing my point, which is about risk: you would avoid the infinitesimal risk of harm from vaccines and choose the extremely high and historically well-attested risk of your child dying from childhood disease (not to mention spoiling the commons by destroying herd immunity). The mortality rate for infants in 1900 was over 100 out of 1000 in the first year alone (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4838a2.htm). That's 1 in 10. That's how you would have us live. Not me, nor my children, thanks. Unfortunately the authors of the paper you cite have been censured for improper data collection: http://www.casewatch.org/civil/geier.shtml

This is the pattern with opponents of vaccination: they lie, lie, and lie again.

Their conclusion also goes against logic: vaccines work preciesly by exercising the immune system.

And you’re completely missing my point, which is about risk: you would avoid the infinitesimal risk of harm from vaccines and choose the extremely high and historically well-attested risk of your child dying from childhood disease (not to mention spoiling the commons by destroying herd immunity).

The mortality rate for infants in 1900 was over 100 out of 1000 in the first year alone (http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4838a2.htm).

That’s 1 in 10. That’s how you would have us live. Not me, nor my children, thanks.

]]> By: Asheya http://balafon.net/archives/1048#comment-12190 Asheya Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:47:54 +0000 http://balafon.net/?p=1048#comment-12190 I agree that there is no scientific evidence to uphold a link between autism and vaccination. However, there is evidence indicating a risk of increased autoimmune diseases because of vaccination. I don't have all the studies to hand, but I looked into it because of my hyperthyroid condition. Apparently the Hep B vaccine in particular can exacerbate already existing conditions and create new ones. http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a727196976~db=all There are also questions forming about the HPV vaccine. I agree that there is no scientific evidence to uphold a link between autism and vaccination. However, there is evidence indicating a risk of increased autoimmune diseases because of vaccination. I don’t have all the studies to hand, but I looked into it because of my hyperthyroid condition. Apparently the Hep B vaccine in particular can exacerbate already existing conditions and create new ones. http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a727196976~db=all There are also questions forming about the HPV vaccine.

]]> By: Carolyn http://balafon.net/archives/1048#comment-12188 Carolyn Sun, 08 Nov 2009 13:33:37 +0000 http://balafon.net/?p=1048#comment-12188 :-) :-)

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